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  • #5616

    Scotty MacFly
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    The weather here in Colo. is way too warm and dry for Nov. The Poudre is low, but not bad, it’s fishable. I did see a pool of fish in water less than a foot deep and tried like the dickens to hook into one, but the water is low and clear, and the gig was up. They were on to me. I even resorted to going sub surface in the deeper runs, but to no avail.

    I did however see a huge bald eagle fly over the river at about 50ft high. The river went around a bend and there are lots of trees and I looked up in time to see this magnificent creature come around the bend following the river and right over me. Just awe inspiring.

    I did venture back into the South Fork of the Poudre again just to run into a fresh deer kill. The meat was still red, and so I quickly got out of there knowing that it is infested with lions.

    Anyway, I wasn’t able to even get a rise no matter what I did. There were bugs flying here and there, but not what you’d call a hatch. If you’ve been out lately dealing with warm weather and low water, what techniques are you trying? Everyone is saying to try streamers, but I don’t use streamers. There were even grasshoppers in the weeds. Didn’t bring any with me this time. Figured at the elevation I was at, the hoppers would have been gone.

    If you’re having better results than I am, and I hope you are, let me in on the secret.

    That eagle was impressive.

    #5617

    Grsdlnr
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    On my favorite steelhead river in western NY state there were several resident bald eagles – a nest overlooked one of the better pools. Even if the fish weren’t cooperating it was always a good day when you saw an eagle.

    As to what to use – hard to say. I’ve taken a few (very few) late season trout on attractor dries. The main problem I’ve had with very low clear water and no bugs hatching is the fish are almost supernaturally spooky and they’re on such high alert (for eagles!) that I never get close enough to get a fly over one.

    At least you’re fishing! (and avoiding becoming lion food)

    #5618

    Creek
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    Yes, the water is low now with this weird weather. I’ve had some luck in beaver ponds and small ponds.

    This is one of my favorites. It’s called Wrights Lake. More of a pond to me. No bait fishing. Dry flies work year around here.

    http://bealermountainhome.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Wrights-Lake.jpg

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    #5621

    Scotty MacFly
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    Nice pond Creek. Doesn’t it freeze over the winter?

    I’m going back on the river today. Staying above the surface this time, and in different water styles. Also not going up as high either, and staying away from the kitties.

    Any suggestions on what size flies and where in a river to fish?

    #5622

    Creek
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    It does freeze, but it’s late in the year and thaws out early. It’s fed by a spring. It’s also fed by Chalk Creek where i’ve gotten a grand slam out of. With this weather it’s not even close to freezing.

    One thing you have to do as a 100% dry fly fisherman Scotty is know where and when you can fish dries. They won’t always work everywhere year around, but they will work someplace always.

    I don’t know your river, but if I was to fish the Arkansas now it would be BWO in the afternoon. Forget mornings unless you want to nymph and midges should work. Maybe a small Pheasent Tail, but midges will be better.

    If everything continues to fail and you must catch a fish. Use a worm. 😀

    #5623

    Scotty MacFly
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    Thanks Creek. With the weather like it is, this is the latest I ever fly fished in the year. It’s this time of year I would get ready for ice fishing, but I don’t do that anymore. So flies in the late fall is new to me, and I’m having a hard time figuring this all out.

    Like I said, I’m trying some different water on the river. Not my usual pocket water or runs, but flat water on the river, maybe some riffles.

    This is more of a learning thing for me. I just want to see if I can get them to rise so I know I have unlocked something. It’s a beautiful day, actually had a little frost on the truck this morning, but at your elevation I’m sure you’ve already had that. But anyway, this is new to me so I’m just playing with it and learning as I go. Either way, it’s going to be fun.

    The fish I encountered last week were trapped, and I would have liked to catch a few and release them into the main part of the river because when it does freeze, they won’t make it. I’d hate to see them die like that.

    Got some new line for my rod, and all I’ve done is lawn cast it so I’m curious how it works on the water.

    #5624

    Creek
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    Midges hatch everyday of the year. Concentrate on those. On top and below if you have to.

    Try some North Country Spiders. A Stewart black might work.

    #5625

    Scotty MacFly
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    I’m back, and what a great day. I left before your last post Creek, and it looks as though we think very much alike. I started with a Griffiths Gnat with a Stewarts Spider beneath it. I started at the head of a pool where a long run enters into it. After awhile I saw a fish rise for the Gnat, but I missed it. It was across the river and I believe drag made me miss. I casted over to my side of the river where the faster current made a large eddie where the riffles became the run and caught a nice brown. It took the Gnat. After awhile I switched the spider for a # 22 pheasant tail. I then hooked a brute, but lost it when I tried to get the fish on the reel. Again, the Gnat was hit. So after all that, I put on a smaller Gnat in place of the nymph. The next few fish I missed because I was really enjoying my casting with this new line and so I wasn’t paying attention to what I was doing. I just wanted to cast, and cast at objects at all different distances. I will tell you right now, the Airflo River & Stream fly line on my Scott Radian is fantastic. I will definitely advise using it.

    The rest of the day was just playing with the rod, feeling it with the line and so forth. Didn’t care at all if a fish took my fly, I was having too much fun. I’m tempted to e-mail Scott and let them in on what I think of it.

    When I got back to my truck, I found a business card on my window. This is what it’s for.

    http://www.flytybench.com/

    They look nice.

    #5626

    Creek
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    Sounds like a good day Scotty. I was out playing with a flintlock. They can be frustrating at times until I figure what it wants for a load.

    I like the bench.

    #5627

    Scotty MacFly
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    They are nice, Some way out of my price range, but maybe others here could use one if they like them.

    It was just a good day in Colorado to get out. Flintlocks are cool! Glad you got out as well.

    #5628

    Creek
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    I get out everyday Scotty. I love my mountains and I have to be in them to get my daily dose. Even in a blizzard i’ll be up in the mountains wearing snowshoes.

    I was born way to late. My heart is in 1820-1860 during the mountain man era. My whole lifestyle is based on it. I’m even starting to dress like they did. I’ve been using the same gun. A Hawken flintlock. All the tools I use to shoot and clean it are taken from that era. I hunt and fish for my food. Which is why I prefer fishing the mountain creeks.
    If I had a better income i’d build a cabin deep in the mountains and trade my Jeep for a mule.
    I know i’m strange, but we all have to do what makes us happy. I just wish I was younger. The mountains can be harsh at times.

    #5629

    Scotty MacFly
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    My grandmother said the same thing about me, born in the wrong era. But I think she meant more of the early 1900’s. But she did say I was the kind to buy a mountain and put a 50ft high electric fence around it, ha ha. Sometimes I think she was right. Probably why I fish primarily alone and want my space. I don’t like being around crowds and have passed up great fishing spots because of people already there. Then again, I want to give them their space and quiet time to fish as well. I may be anti social, but I do respect others.

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