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  • #7559

    Scotty MacFly
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    Can anyone please give me a good logical answer to why some big brand named rods cost just as much for a 7’6″ 3wt as it does for a 9′ 6wt rod?

    I see other companies adjust the price according to the weight & length of the rods, but it seems it’s only the big high end rod companies that have the same price for a family of rods no matter the weight & length.

    #7563

    Creek
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    Expecting a good logical answer is a fantasy. It’s a ripoff pure and simple. That, and it shows how little the company has invested in the materials in a rod. How do you think they can give you a new rod on warranty.

    btw…It’s the Lifetime warranty that everybody loves that drives up the cost of the rod. I’ve never needed a rod warranty, but I still paid for it so the careless can get a new rod when they break theirs.

    #7564

    Grsdlnr
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    … why some big brand named rods cost just as much for a 7’6″ 3wt as it does for a 9′ 6wt rod?

    The longer rod should be slightly more expensive to make – though not by a lot (the cost of one or two guides and paying someone to wrap them, plus a few more square inches of carbon fiber cloth and a bit more epoxy) The real unseen cost of a fly rod is what creek said – the economics of covering idiot-proof warranties. Maybe they’ve found that shorter, lighter rods are more likely to be broken and returned for free replacement? Just a guess.

    On that subject – IMO the idiot-proof warranty has been one of the dumbest ideas the flyfishing industry ever came up with. By covering not just defects but negligence as well, they’ve cut future rod sales by who knows how much. I worked PT in a few fly shops in the past and have witnessed the lengths some people go to get a new rod for free. One example was the guy who used his 7′ 4wt for king salmon – every fall he’d bring it in broken and get a new one – he wouldn’t buy an appropriate salmon rod because the company would always replace the little one.

    Spinning and bait casting rods don’t come with unconditional coverage and their customers don’t seem to be complaining.

    #7569

    Scotty MacFly
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    I don’t see what that guy catching King Salmon on a 7′ 4wt is gaining by getting a new rod every year by breaking it fishing for something way out of a 4wts league. Sounds like a headache and a waste of time to me.

    I can see paying a little more for a longer/heavier rod. That makes sense because of more material.

    I saw a movie today, and there was a line in it that would possibly answer my question. ” People don’t buy things anymore. They buy names.” Yep. But that’s a different subject, but I’m sure it’s part of the reason. Some rod companies are real proud of their product.

    #7570

    Creek
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    I saw a new Winston is selling for $995.00. Cmon! That will buy a nice custom bamboo rod.

    #7572

    Grsdlnr
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    Scotty, I guess what the guy gained was not having to shell out for an 8 or 9 wt rod for his once-a-year day of salmon fishing. Maybe some perverse joy from gaming the system, I can’t say.

    We’re on the same page guys – I can think of a lot of better ways to spend a thousand bucks than a new plastic rod no matter whose name is on it.

    #7576

    Scotty MacFly
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    Ok, let me say this, & I’m sure you’ll all agree.

    I have seen on another forum a thread about not so favorite rods. Up to the point of my reply there were about 4 or 5 people saying their Sage rods weren’t what they hoped to be. One guy posted that even though he tested the Sage, it didn’t feel right, but he bought it anyway, because it was a Sage.
    REALLY?
    Come on people. What the bloody heck are you thinking. Don’t buy a rod that doesn’t suit you, no matter what the brand is. How daft can some people be?

    • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 2 days ago by  Scotty MacFly.
    #7580

    Creek
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    I think they like fast rods because they can false cast 20 times in 5 seconds. Little short fast false casts at full speed. What’s the point of this? What does the 20th cast tell them that the first false cast didn’t tell them?

    #7581

    Scotty MacFly
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    That is soooooo funny, because it’s sooooo true…..Sad, but true. Still laughing my butt off.

    Maybe they are competing for the fastest false caster in the west.

    • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 2 days ago by  Scotty MacFly.
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