April 5, 2016 at 11:10 pm #5106
Hey friends, I got an e-mail from Chris Lantzy, and he has started building my bamboo rod. I am excited. But, to highten the excitement, after having many discussions with him and being very pleased with his products, he will be building fiberglass rods from Lamiglass blanks. He used to build rods from Lamiglass blanks years ago, and wants to see if they have changed since then. They will be slower and honey in color. Chris asked me if I would be interested in trying out the demo rods and reporting back on how my take is on them. What could I say? I was speechless. I’m humbled and built up at the same time.
He will hopefully start them this coming fall season. I never thought that in my quiet little life, I would ever get an opportunity to try something like this. I do believe this is going to be fun.April 6, 2016 at 10:40 am #5107
Sounds great! I had a Lamiglass rod several years back. They’re somewhat popular over on the Fiberglass Flyrodders Forum.April 6, 2016 at 11:27 am #5108
I tried a Lami, but found it too slow for me.April 6, 2016 at 7:01 pm #5109
I really don’t know what to expect from Lamiglass. I only have one fiberglass rod right now, the F2 by Scott. It’s a faster glass, being what Scott calls S2 glass. After my bamboo rod, I told Chris I wanted a 8ft. 5wt Steffan for the bigger waters. But this may change my mind. Time will tell I guess.
Being so accustomed to graphite, it takes a few minutes for me to get into rhythm with my F2. This will be a challenge I am up for. I have found I do prefer the slower rods, especially for the creeks I fish. And the older I get, the more I appreciate my slower rods. But to go off on what Creek said, I do hope they are not so slow that I can use the bathroom in between forward cast and back cast.April 6, 2016 at 9:44 pm #5110
We’re all different Scotty. You may love it. I don’t like fast rods, but I don’t like slow ones either. I guess my natural timing is med action. I like to feel the rod load, but I don’t like to feel like i’m waiting for it to unload.April 6, 2016 at 10:08 pm #5111
I’m with you there Creek. I need to feel the rod load. There’s something about feeling the rod begin to load when lifting the line off the water and bending behind you letting you know it’s time to come forward. Fast rods don’t do that for me unless I over line them, and I only have one fast rod, but it’s more a faster med/fast. I wont own any fast Sage rods. They have nothing to offer me.
My Orvis Superfine Touch is a full flex rod, and I would say it’s slower than my F2. A true dry fly rod indeed. But my favorite I think is my Classic Trout when I hook up. It has a great feel with the sensitivity in the upper half and power in the butt section to handle bigger fish.April 7, 2016 at 8:52 am #5117
I’m sure you’re aware Scotty when they first started to make dry fly rods from bamboo the rods were faster than the wet fly rods. The theory being a faster rod is easier to false cast.April 7, 2016 at 12:57 pm #5122
I tried a Lami, but found it too slow for me.
That’s why I “had” a Lamiglass instead of “have”. Too slow for me, too. The older Lami’s were a little too whippy, as well. But that could have just been my “Brush Creek Companion” model.April 7, 2016 at 8:18 pm #5130
I’m aware of it Creek. The bamboo rod I’m having made is a Med/fast 7’6″ 4wt. But for the smaller waters where I fish for brookies and cutties, I was thinking a medium 7’6″ 3wt. Something that would be comparable to my Superfine or Scott F2. I like a softer rod for the smaller waters like Boulder Creek above Nederland. But if the rod I’m having made now feels like I think, I may not need a 3wt.April 8, 2016 at 8:28 am #5138
I never felt a need to go under a 5wt for Colorado waters. Even on short creek rods. John Gierach feels the same way and mentioned it in his books. He said if you can’t land a fly softly with a 5wt going to a 3-4wt won’t help. I completely agree.
I fish a lot of creeks like Chalk Creek that runs from the Arkansas River up past St Elmo. The wind always blows straight down the creek every afternoon. A light line is frustrating. Especially, with a bushy dry. Creek fishing is all about pin point accuracy, and I have a hard time with that with a light line in the wind.
Spring creeks are different, but I have none of those near me. I do have a ton of beaver ponds though, and the 5wt still works perfect with the right leader setup.
Just my opinion and how I do it. When I read that John feels the same way I knew I was on the right track.April 8, 2016 at 8:28 pm #5140
To me a 5wt for the creeks is overkill. I can land a fly softly enough, but it’s the feel of the fight for me. Yeah, a full flex 3wt isn’t fun at all when wind is coming down the canyon, but one must learn to adjust their casting and be more patient while maybe waiting for that little let up in the wind. But there are times no matter what you do, wind will defeat a 3wt quite often.
Most of my rods are 4wts, and they pretty much cover everything that my area has to offer. I have two 5wts, and when I fish the Poudre, which is considered a 4wt river at the least, I’ll use the 5wt’s when the wind does blow. I really dislike the wind, and I am seriously considering a 7wt. Then I can use it also for bass if I feel like it.
The two 5wts I use mostly for the White River when I go to Meeker. I can also use them on the Colorado down in Rifle or Glenwood Canyon. It’s not so much the fish that I have learned that dictates what weight rod I use, but the size of flies and the speed of the cfs’s. I have tried 4wts on the White below Avery Dam, and the current is fast and powerful because you have the North and South White rivers merging into one. Believe me, the fishing is incredible. I have lost so many fish that have gotten downstream of me on a 4wt rod, but 5wts handle it much better. I also use a 5wt on the Arkansas.
Up here in the IPWA, or RMNP, 3wts and medium or full flex 4wt rods work wonderfully. That is till those 50mph winds kick in.April 9, 2016 at 9:09 am #5144
Best creek rod i’ve found is the CGR glass rod 7′ 4-5wt, but it’s perfect for a Peach DT 5wt. It will cast just the leader and bend in half with a 12′ trout. Yet. it will cast out 40-50′ if needed. The best part is it’s only $129 retail and all the way down to $69 when on sale at Cabelas.
I’ve tried all kinds of graphite, bamboo and glass rods on creeks. Some of them pretty pricey. None of them have felt better, or performed better than the CRG for me. Amazing for such an inexpensive rod. I bought two of them in case they stop making them. Glass being what it is I doubt i’ll ever break it, but it could get stolen.
Nothing overkill about a 5wt when it’s the right rod.April 9, 2016 at 10:59 pm #5150
I have always believed if the rod you use works for you and makes you happy, you made the right decision no matter what. That’s what makes this sport so great. Everyone is different, and we like different things when it comes to fly fishing, but at the same time, none of it is wrong ( unless you put live bait on your fly ).
I take it you prefer the E-glass over the S-glass? Do you still have that Classic Trout?April 10, 2016 at 9:02 am #5151
No, I got rid of the CT, because it was plastic. Still a good rod.
I prefer s-glass. The Lami is e-glass and too slow for me.
I mentioned the 5wt, because you think it’s overkill. I was trying to explain it’s not with the right rod and gave an example.April 10, 2016 at 1:21 pm #5152
Too bad about the CT. It was a 5wt, correct. If it was, too bad for me, I would’ve bought it from you. Those CGR’s are so popular, I can’t imagine them going away any time soon. Now since I have said that, they will. I have had them in my hand at Cabelas a few times, but never pulled the trigger.
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