February 27, 2017 at 12:21 pm #6086
Most of you here know my feelings on fishing dries. I do it for many reasons that are important to me. I’ve never been known to do things the easy way. I would hope i’m known for giving my opponent the best chance they can have with all their defenses in full force.
I hunt with a flintlock rifle and I hunt on the ground stalking the animal. No tricks like calls, bait, long shots etc. It’s up close hunting with the animals senses working at their peak. This is for bear, elk, and deer.
I also like to apply that to my fishing. I think dry flies are the most challenging for many reasons. Nymph fisherman will tell me that trout take food sub-surface 90% of the time. So, that in itself makes dries harder and nymphing easier. You also don’t need to know how to cast when nymphing. Casting dries to trout takes lots of practice and skill to put the fly right where you want it. Then you have to make sure it drifts naturally. Anyway, this is not the purpose of this thread.
The reason is something I read yesterday about dry fly fishing. An author of a few books by the name of Tom McCoy said it and i’ve been thinking about it all night. This is what he said s the reason he just fishes dry flies and it’s something I never thought of, but sure hits me hard that I didn’t think of it.
He said trout live sub-surface. It’s their home and where they live. Our home is above the surface in the air. It’s where we live. A shark can’t hurt us in our home. We have to go into the sharks home for it to kill us.
So, to be fair. We should leave the fish alone in their home. It should be their sanctuary. A place they can be comfortable and not worry about man who doesn’t live in their home. However, when they come up to our home they’re fair game for us to catch. I’m sure most fisherman will think this is silly. I did too when I first read it, but it started to make sense to me as I thought about it. It’s all about being fair. Just like in my hunting. I try to be fair. I wouldn’t go in a bear den and shoot a bear. It’s not even legal, but that wasn’t always the case and it was done by those who wuld do anything to kill a bear. The same goes for fishing. Some will do anything to catch fish. I’m not like that.
I was going to fish nothing but North Country Spiders this year. Those are sub-surface flies. Just barely under the surface, but still they’re sub-surface. So, that plan is out now.
From now on my fishing will be 100% dries until i’m too old to fish anymore. Nothing new for me, but it’s for one more reason than I had before.
Thanks for listening.
btw..Scotty, send me your address and i’ll give you a bunch of spiders.February 27, 2017 at 3:29 pm #6089
Creek, you know I will not judge you for your decision. You should always fish the way that makes you the happiest. I support you.
But I will only give you my address if you are really sure you want to do this.
Tell you what, send me your spiders, and I will send you something in return. Honest trade.
February 27, 2017 at 3:37 pm #6091
- This reply was modified 1 year ago by Scotty MacFly.
I don’t want to see them go to waste. I’d rather you use them. I don’t want anything in return. I already have the CGR.February 27, 2017 at 3:43 pm #6092
Oh believe me, I will fish them. I will send you some dry flies. Even trade. Trust me.February 27, 2017 at 3:47 pm #6093
Send me your address on the glass forum.February 27, 2017 at 3:57 pm #6094
I will when I get home.February 27, 2017 at 7:05 pm #6095
Creek, address has been sent.February 27, 2017 at 11:11 pm #6096
I understand creek. Take your time, and whatever you decide, it’s good with me.February 28, 2017 at 6:02 am #6097
Creek, that part of the book you shared with us is exactly 100% why I have chosen to go back to my beginnings and fish the way that brings me, myself & I the most joy. That was the authors opinion. Even when a fish rises, it’s still in it’s habitat.
I have chosen not to follow others opinions unless it fits in to the style of fishing I enjoy. They are entitled to their opinions as always, and I enjoy listening to them, but it doesn’t mean its for me.
That reasoning that Tom Mcoy wrote is fine…for him, and maybe you too, but knowing your love of the traditional British style, I, & this is just my opinion so take it lightly, I don’t think you’d be happy not fishing spiders. That’s why you bought that rod for Pete’s sake. Forgive the pun.
But like I said, you do what YOU want. No one here will look at you any different.February 28, 2017 at 12:06 pm #6098
Lee Wulff often said something similar. Of course he fished wets on a floating line for Atlantics, though in Canada weighted flies and split shot are not allowed in salmon rivers. (wonder what he’d have said about fishing three nymphs, shot and a bobber?) From Lee Wulff On Flies –
“With surface fly-fishing all the fish have to be brought to the surface for the lure, and all the deep flowing water is sanctuary for the fish. Any trout caught by surface fly-fishing leaves the sanctuary of its own volition, and unless it leaves, it cannot be caught. This eliminates the drifting of a lure right into the trout’s holding level and almost right into its mouth, so that simple curiosity as much as hunger may cause it to mouth the lure.”
Creek, if refraining from fishing even a bit below the surface is what you want to do – go for it and don’t look back. If it doesn’t make YOU happy what’s the point?February 28, 2017 at 12:45 pm #6099
I fished nothing but dries for decades with no thought to do otherwise. I got the North Country Spiders stuck in my head and it’s hard to shake.
Reading what Lee said may make it easier to go back to just dries.
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