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  • #5803

    Scotty MacFly
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    For $650, I can get a nice fly rod or reel. They won’t ruin your health, but maybe do the opposite. But as said before, I did enjoy the pipe I had, just don’t inhale. Not supposed to inhale pipe smoke, just puff on it.

    I see many of them were used, and some on the Pipe Specials were listed as unsmoked. From what I know, which isn’t much on this subject, the prices aren’t too bad on some, but the Alex Florov series under New Pipes are over $1000. They are beautiful, but that’s just nuts.

    But, some people will pay for them. But I don’t see spending that much money just to smoke.

    Speaking of tobacco, what is everyone’s opinion about the smell of tobacco on our fingers transfering it’s odor on our flies. Will the fish smell it and turn away? Maybe not in faster water because they don’t have the time to check the fly out as long, but in pools they have all the time they want to check out a fly.

    #5804

    Creek
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    Never thought of that. I guess smoking when we’re done fishing would be the safe way to do it. Sit on the bank of the River Wharfe and light up thinking about the day on the water. If there’s any tea left in the thermos pour a cuppa to have with the pipe.

    Then jump in the Range Rover and head for estate.

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    #5806

    Scotty MacFly
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    I do have a question about tying spiders. I’m curious to know what hooks do you all use.

    I use a short shank hook. Dai Riki I believe it is. It’s a curved hook.

    #5807

    Grsdlnr
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    Speaking of tobacco, what is everyone’s opinion about the smell of tobacco on our fingers transfering it’s odor on our flies. Will the fish smell it and turn away? Maybe not in faster water because they don’t have the time to check the fly out as long, but in pools they have all the time they want to check out a fly.

    The best spring creek fisherman I know is a biker. Not an office worker who rides on weekends, but a biker – grease-stained clothes, wild hair, club ink, etc. And a former chain smoker. If trout were put off by tobacco, his catch rate never showed it. If anything he catches fewer trout since quitting cigarettes, but maybe it’s just because he’s getting up there in years and doesn’t fish quite as fanatically as before.

    #5808

    Creek
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    Scotty,

    Like everything I do. I’m picky about the details. I want hooks that are made for the spiders specifically.

    I use these.

    https://www.detteflies.com/part_l3as

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    #5812

    Scotty MacFly
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    Grs. Neat story. My grandpa smoked & still caught fish. I was told when I chewed tobacco to spit in the hook. Of course I was using lures & not flies. Never spit on them though. I swallowed.

    Leave the jokes out if it.

    Creek, I am at work, but when I get home I can show you the hooks I use for spiders. It’s what the guys at the shop say they use and are happy with them. I as well have really had no complaints. But I may order some of the ones you have. I am not too educated on what hooks are out there.

    #5813

    Creek
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    Partridge makes the best hooks. I just wish they made the spider hook in barbless. Barbless hooks slide in and out of a fish easier than pinched barbs.

    It’s important to use hooks with a straight eye for spiders. It puts the fly in the right attitude in the water.

    #5814

    Creek
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    I canceled the bamboo order. I got to thinking about it and realized I don’t really need it. I have a custom built graphite rod with one of the original unsanded Fisher blanks. It’s 8’1″ 4/5wt and the sweetest casting rod i’ve ever owned. It’s perfect for dries.

    What I really need are new waders. My old ones are shot. I also really want to concentrate on the spiders, so buying another dry fly rod makes no sense. When I fished dries I only had one fly box with me full of dries. I’ll do the same with the spiders. One box of spiders is all i’ll bring. That forces me to make them work. It’s too easy to switch to another kind of fly if it’s with you.

    I’ve been thinking about what fly box to use that’s traditional and suits to spiders. I’m going to do as Oliver Edwards does and use a Wheatley with clips. It seems like the best way to hold them so they won’t blow away in the wind and also won’t squash the fragile hackle. I’ll use the 4″ box with size #10 clips on both sides. That will be 100 flies. Way more than enough and is a nice compact box. If I buy directly from Wheatley I can get my name engraved on it. :)

    #5815

    Creek
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    I just ordered the box from Wheatley with my name in Olde English on it.

    I’m so corny.

    #5816

    Scotty MacFly
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    Hold on a second. Spiders are made with soft tackle. My grandpa put them in his leather fly wallet. I got some wet fly wallets from the man who made my boo rod. They press the hackle down a bit, but I wouldn’t say they get crushed, because they’re soft. Not like a traditional Catskill fly would. I can’t justify spending that much money on a fly box, but I’m not saying I wouldn’t like one. They are great quality boxes & will no doubt last a lifetime. But good choice Creek.

    Still can’t talk you into a kilt for the small stream wet wading days?

    Now as for the straight eye on the hook. That’s kind of the answer I was looking for on my thread; There must be a reason. I have always been curious why some eyes are down & some straight. I just don’t know where to look to get a short straight answer. Unless someone here did answer on that thread and I missed it.

    Now I have to look at it to see.

    #5817

    Creek
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    Another option Scotty. I’ve heard good things about them.

    http://www.caddisflyshop.com/aljacrnocotr.html

    #5818

    Scotty MacFly
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    Here’s the hooks I have been using for spiders.

    http://www.montanaflygoods.com/view-FTDR125.html

    I would like to know what OTHERS on this forum use. I feel as if Creek and I run the show.

    I know, we get talking like two teen age girls, and everyone just sit’s back and reads. 😀

    #5819

    Dark Waters
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    You guys are good entertainment. I’m kind of getting into the history of the “golden age” here in the US with dries and such. I’m sure spiders won’t be that far behind. (Or even classic wets)

    Might give some a try this year. Might explore some tailwaters so i can fish more too, last year was brutal here with temps and flows.

    #5820

    Creek
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    Those hooks are wrong for spiders Scotty. I’m sure you see the difference in yours and the ones I showed you. It would be better for you to use a dry fly hook than those emerger hooks.

    I know some think a spider imitates an emerger, but it also imitates a drowned adult.

    Here’s the latest book to come out on spiders. It’s by far the best one. Everything you ever wanted to know about the history, materials, how to tie, how to fish, and disproves a bunch of myths about them too. You won’t believe how far back these flies go, and the UK wasn’t the first country to use them. If you only have one book on spiders it should be this one.

    http://www.anglebooks.com/the-north-country-fly-yorkshire-s-soft-hackle-tradition-by-robert-l-smith.html/

    #5821

    Scotty MacFly
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    DW, bless your heart! Thanks for jumping in.

    As the entertainment part, I figured as much.

    I’m curious with what you’re up to. The “golden age” in the U.S.A. of dries. Awesome! Yeah, Creek and I have a thing for Great Briton. I really can’t and won’t tell his side of his story why, but mine is if you didn’t know by now, I am a first generation born in the U.S. because my family was from Scotland. Still have a few left over there, but not many.

    Spiders are incredible. I’ll lay on a secret to you DW. Brown trout will destroy a spider. They hit those things like torpedo’s. Try them, you’ll be right here with Creek and I talking about them. They are the one thing I can’t get enough of, and if it wasn’t for seeing fish take dries like they sometimes do, I’d go completely spiders for the rest of my life.

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