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  • #7373

    Creek
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    When it comes down to arguing who’s the better fisherman I think we’ve run out of stuff to talk about. My conversation with Lightline was not pleasant and it’s not why I come here.

    This has always been a specialized forum and it started out good, but has slowly died. Even the owner (Dave) doesn’t show up anymore. We had a longer run than I thought we would, but it’s done.

    Cya……

    #7376

    Scotty MacFly
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    Ahhhh crap!

    I just knew it! I knew this was going to happen.

    Listen, I can’t tell people what to do or think, we all have our opinions based on experiences we have had. I read what you both have written, and I see logic on both sides.

    Creek, you have explained things to me I never thought I’d ever know, and have shown me things my grandfather did, but in a different light, along with the history of dry fly fishing. I thank you for taking me there.

    Lightline is someone who obviously can travel to places like those mentioned, and I think it’s great that he can. I never have fished the big rivers he has, basically because I just don’t have the funds and time to do it. But that’s ok with me. I see his style, and I respect it. Just like you’re’s & mine. I don’t fish his waters, so who am I to judge the fish and the style of fishing? I look at it as a challenge to me if I ever get to fish the waters he has. And you know me, I like a challenge. And I could be made a fool of, and that’s fine too.
    But to our side, yes, the Ark & Poudre are rivers we fish most, because they are convenient. I like to hit new areas on the Poudre because to me, no area on a single river is the same as the stretch around the bend. Its always a learning game to me. But that’s my life when it comes to fishing.
    I understand both your sides, and I won’t choose sides, because not every river is exactly, EXACTLY, the same. And the characteristics of the fish vary as well, but with similarities too. I will say that when it comes to slower moving rivers, or big pools and such, fishing upstream is a bigger challenge because the fish react differently than the ones in fast boulder strewn pocket water.
    But That’s just what my experience is that I have noticed. Am I doing something wrong? Maybe. But that’s why I come here. You guys have been great, especially you creek. But I know where to find you, so if you want to leave this forum, I understand. You will be missed, that’s no lie. It has been you and me chatting. But that’s what happens when its just two of us.

    As for me, I’m still here.

    #7377

    Creek
    Participant

    Scotty……….It bothers me when someone looks down on someone else’s fishing. It’s conceited, bragging bullshit. It’s what fly fisherman do to spin fishers a lot of the time. It’s just fishing. Not rocket science. It’s not that hard and certainly nothing to brag about.

    The spin rod came in today and I just tried it. No good. My rib is screaming at me right now. So, i’m retired from fishing. I’m going to go back to hunting for bear, elk, and deer. I’ll just do it until I drop from old age, or a bear gets the best of me. I’d rather do that than sit around. It will keep me out hiking with the pooch to stay in shape for hunting seasons. After realizing that fishing wasn’t going to work I kept going up the mountain towards St Elmo for a hike scout for bear for next season. Lot’s of bears up there. It felt good and I would have missed hunting if I gave it up. I really would have missed not getting all that healthy low-fat meat too.

    I’ll tell you what. As long as you post here i’ll continue to come here to talk to you. I don’t have to be fishing to do that.

    #7378

    Scotty MacFly
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    Creek, it bugs me to no end that you can’t do something as simple as fishing without being in pain like you are. I’m sorry to hear you giving it up. But at least you can still hunt, that’s good.

    As for others making comments about how others fish, I get you on that. Everyone has a right to fish the way that brings them the most pleasure – as long as it’s legal. I get Lightline too, and like you, I used to fly fish with nymphs and a strike indicator. YAWN!!! If I were to go back and nymph half the time, it would be Czech nymphing, because like casting upstream, I was working the line, feeling the nymph tick the bottom. I was in total contact with the nymph being so close to the action. It did keep my interest. And it’s best done in a faster current, which I like. But lobbing out a nymph in a deep pool or run, watching the (bobber) float on by, the contact to the nymph is gone. The contact went from me to the indicator; then from the indicator to the nymph. Everything is hinged at the indicator. Boring because it’s so hypnotic. Same thing, over & over.

    Anyway, I hope you can return the spin rod without any problems. Did you get the St. Croix?

    I would like to keep hearing from you, you have been the biggest part why I stuck around.
    I can fish like I am, and hold my own. I will never be a professional, even though some people I know think I’m better than I am because I love this sport, and I do catch fish. But there is so much I can still learn, and besides, there is so much I can re-learn because I forget certain techniques. I must have tied 100 Delaware Adams flies, and I still have to look up my notes after a little spell of not tying, or watch a video so I don’t forget something.

    And who knows, maybe new people getting into this sport may come here to start with, people who want to start with dry flies, and this forum can start all over again. You may get bored going over the same old questions again, and again, but I won’t. It’ll be where I can help them, just like you and the others have helped me.

    #7379

    Creek
    Participant

    Funny you should mention euro nymphing. I was looking into that before I sent for the spin rod. With that style of nymphing there is no casting. I think my rib could handle that. Like you said it’s a challenge when no indicator is used and it does work best on faster waters which we both have plenty of.

    I want a 10’3-4wt rod as light as possible. There’s a new one that everybody seems to really like and it the lightest rod of all the euro type rods. The company is Syndicate. They cost $299 which is cheap compared to some of the others.

    No problem sending the St Croix back. That’s why I like to buy from Cabelas. They even send a return label with every order.

    So, I need to think about this some more. It’s an easier decision now that the spin rod is out of the picture. If I decide to nymph I can start to go to the Taylor again when I get the itch for big trout. Those fish are smart too, so that’s more fun. Can’t go until 2019, because Cottonwood pass is closed due to them paving it. That will make the drive better and faster when it’s done. Should only be a 35 min drive once it’s paved.

    #7380

    Creek
    Participant

    Here’s the rod. I’ve read a bunch of reviews from the top competition fisherman and they really like it. It’s only 3oz for the 10’3wt. That’s really light.

    http://syndicateff.com/pipeline-pro-p2-series-competition-fly-rods/#!prettyPhoto

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by  Creek.
    #7382

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    Yeah, it is funny how things are mentioned when they are. Go for it creek, if you can without pain. But keep in mind, you also thought a spinning rod wouldn’t hurt either. I guess you can see if it will hurt by using the spin rod, and go through the motion of lobbing the line to see if there’s any pain.

    I have heard of Syndicate. They’re name is getting out there in the nymphing world. So is that one rod from Cortland, but I forgot the name of the rod.

    #7383

    Creek
    Participant

    The problem with Cortland is the euro rod they’ve had was breaking and they discontinued it. The new one coming I heard was going to be expensive. The price of the Syndicate is really cheap compared to the rest of the euro rods.

    #7384

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    Ok, I haven’t kept up on that stuff, so I didn’t know about the discontinue on the rod.

    While I have you, can you help with a different matter?

    My sons jeep won’t start. I put in a new battery, and starter. He said when he turns the key half way, the lights and everything come on, but when he turns the key all the way, where the engine should crank over, everything dies. Would it be the alternator?

    #7388

    Creek
    Participant

    They set it up that way to take the load off the battery when starting. Everything is shut off so the battery can give full power to the starter.

    You have other problems. The starter doesn’t turn over the engine at all?

    #7389

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    As it was explained to me, I’d say no. I have not looked at it yet & won’t till this afternoon. But I said it like it was described to me. Turn the key half way, dash lights & head lights come on, turn the key to start the engine and everything shuts off.

    That’s all I know for now.

    #7390

    Creek
    Participant

    Yes, turning the key half way is just turning the key on. That’s how it runs after it starts. He has a bad relay or similar. Hard to diagnose without the Jeep in front of me. Obviously, the starter isn’t getting the juice from the battery. You have to test to find out where it’s not getting through. There’s a slim possibility the new starter is bad, but that’s a longshot. Easy enough to check that by putting a jumper directly to the starter to see if it turns over the engine.

    #7391

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    Neutral safety switch in the ignition?

    #7392

    Grsdlnr
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    Just a thought before you give up on fishing, creek – have you considered a tenkara rod? They’re long but quite light, and I would think easily cast even with your weak hand.

    #7393

    Creek
    Participant

    I did consider it and watched a bunch of videos on it. The landing of the fish seems awkward and what do you do if you get a big one? You have no line to let out to let it run.

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