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  • #7394

    Creek
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    Scotty…….all those things need to be checked out. Anything that can block the juice from getting from the battery to the starter should be looked at.

    #7395

    Scotty MacFly
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    Thank you.

    #7396

    Grsdlnr
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    …what do you do if you get a big one? You have no line to let out to let it run.

    The first time I ever met a tenkara angler was a good 35 years ago on a Catskill river and I wondered the same thing. The guy spoke little English – when I told him there were some good sized lake-run fall browns in the stream at that time of year and he could be in trouble if he hooked one of them he got this big smile on his face and said, “Ah, hope for trouble.” šŸ˜‰

    From what my tenkara toting pals say, the long soft rod is a good shock absorber and they insist some really good size fish can be landed with one. I was thinking mostly about the smaller creeks with not-so big trout (which is of course what tenkara was developed for in Japan) Just tossing out ideas to keep you fishing.

    #7397

    Creek
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    Thanks, but it’s the creeks i’m thinking of getting away from. I’m going to think about euro nymphing, or maybe just high sticking with no indicator. Kind of the same thing.

    #7398

    Scotty MacFly
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    Grs, is Tenkara used with a furled leader tied to the end of the rod with tippet, or strictly a level mono line used? I really know nothing much about that style, but it does seem similar to the style I prefer, and I like fishing small creeks. I can see why it’s meant for small waters, because of no reel. But I have to agree with creek about landing the fish, it must be awkward.

    And wouldn’t a long cane pole with line tied to the end be the same thing, or is that how Tenkara started?

    #7402

    Grsdlnr
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    True, a cane pole would function just like a modern tenkara rod, but much heavier and it won’t collapse down to 12 inches. No doubt a long limber stalk of native bamboo is what a 15th century Japanese peasant would have used to catch dinner.

    As to landing a decent fish, a longer handled net, like one you’d want for float tubing or fishing from a canoe would probably help. The guys who carry those teeny Japanese style nets in the pursuit of the “authentic” tenkara experience are nutters, IMO.

    If you want to get really confused, google “tenkara lines” – those guys have almost as many specialized lines to choose from as we “normal” fly fishermen. For a technique that is supposed to be about simplifying the sport, it didn’t take long for the marketing hype to take over.

    #7403

    Creek
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    I’d miss the song of a classic C&P reel as the fish heads downstream.

    As someone who has fished dries 100% of the time for decades. I’m looking forward to trying something new. I don’t even have one nymph, so tying those up will be a welcome change too.

    #7405

    Scotty MacFly
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    I have seen the flies they use, and the hackles collar looks reversed.

    The whole Tenkara thing to me seems just like the way I like to fish with normal fly gear. Twenty foot casts, give or take, casting upstream into seams and pockets in faster moving water. But really the gear is the only difference.

    I have just been talking to a guy in Canon City who has been fishing the Ark Tenkara style, but using normal, but light weight rods. He wants to try a 8 to 9 foot 2wt rod using 20 feet of mono, using small nymphs.

    He doesn’t like the longer rods. I said I didn’t know much about Tenkara, but with the long rods, short casts, to me it also sounds like Czech nymphing but you’re facing upstream instead of across the water parallel to it. Did I say that right?

    #7406

    Creek
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    I won’t be Czech nymphing for the record. I’ll be high sticking with normal flies like PT and hairs ears.

    #7407

    Grsdlnr
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    Iā€™d miss the song of a classic C&P reel as the fish heads downstream.

    Same here. The lack of a soundtrack by Hardy might even be the main reason I’m not really interested in going tenkara. šŸ˜‰

    I have seen the flies they use, and the hackles collar looks reversed

    Yeah, traditional tenkara flies imitate nothing in particular but are pure attractors, and the reverse hackle is supposed to pulse when twitched by the angler better than a western type wet fly. If you ever saw any of the actual flies used in Japan, you’d be amazed at how crude they are compared to a well-tied North American pattern. The idea is to fish fast, flicking the fly into likely looking spots once or twice, if nothing bites move on. They will cast up-,across- and sometimes downstream, depending on the creek.

    #7409

    Creek
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    I’ve seen the creeks/rivers they fish. I’d kill myself on them at my age. Almost pure pocket water type fishing.

    I prefer a more relaxed kind of fishing.

    #7414

    msbfly
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    just do what this guy did! LOL

    This wasn’t the video I was looking for but I found it to be entertaining, well, at least the first part

    #7415

    msbfly
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    this one is good from about 10:00 on.

    How long is that rod???

    #7416

    Creek
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    Kind of proved my point about what do you do when you catch a big fish and don’t have any line to let out.

    I’ll stick to fly fishing and skip the bait fishing with a flag pole.

    • This reply was modified 1 month ago by  Creek.
    #7428

    msbfly
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    wasn’t trying to prove a point, hence LOL…

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