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  • #7518

    Scotty MacFly
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    About competitions. I don’t compete at all when I fish, except you can say I compete with myself while still keeping it simple. From what I have heard, competitions may have different rules as in how many flies you can fish with.

    From a spectators point of view, For the amount of flies being used, if I were to compete, I like the idea of only one fly competitions, but it must be in the same category for all competitors, as in they all use dries for example. But lets go one more step. The judges make the decision on what fly. Yes, everyone fishes the same fly. If the bite is on, great. But if its not, then everyone is at the mercy of their own skill level. Now that’s where the competition begins by everyone is starting on ground zero & the playing field is equal. It simply becomes skill against skill.
    Just for fun I’d watch something like that. But by no means would I participate. But just for watching entertainment, I think I could be entertained for awhile.
    I know there are competitions where there are rules as you can only fish with one fly, but anything deeper than that I don’t know. Can one use a dry and another a nymph? That wouldn’t be fair considering they say a fish feeds 80% below the surface, then a dry has no chance.

    Any thoughts?

    #7519

    Grsdlnr
    Participant

    I’ve heard of two fly contests – so I guess someone could choose a dry/dropper rig or fish one fly solo, changing flies to suit the conditions. Not sure as I’ve never been one for any sort of fishing competition more formal than “the guy who lands the smallest fish buys lunch” or whatever.

    To me, fishing is all about getting as far away as possible from the day-to-day grind of modern life and the unfortunate human tendency to one-up the next guy, often for no reason other than we can. As Gierach wrote, “…never fall into that statistical macho trap that’s so prevalent in fly-fishing these days. If you keep score, you can be beaten…”

    #7520

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    I like your thinking Grs. I don’t know why this subject came to me last night, but it did & I was just curious. I say if they want to hold contests, make it difficult, but the same for everyone.
    I agree with what John says about keeping score. I’m fishing dang it.I don’t want to count. A person can pick this to death, but I say math doesn’t belong in fishing. In sure you all get that.

    #7522

    Creek
    Participant

    Scotty…….Glad you’re back posting. I don’t know why I checked back here. I really wasn’t going to come back, but i’m glad I did.

    Ok, on to your question. They do have one fly competitions. Not so much on a pro level, but more of a club friendly comp.

    Think about fly fishing. What are the parts of it? You need to learn how to cast. You need to control the fly on the water. You need to know how to rig it all up. The last thing you need to know is what fly to use. This involves many parts, but the bottom line is you need to know what fly to tie on for the time and place you’re at when fishing. So, to leave that decision out of a one fly contest would make it too easy. The fisherman needs to make that decision. You can use a dry, nymph, streamer, or some freaky one of a kind fly. It’s up to the fisherman and you can’t say he’s at a disadvantage for using a dry and someone else uses a nymph, because he made that decision.

    It’s a contest to see who’s the best fisherman and that involves knowing what fly to use. Make sense?

    #7524

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    Hey creek, to start with, like I said before, I aint leaving.

    I had to read your post a few times till I understood it just right.

    So what you’re saying about the fly choosing is this. When it comes to choose a fly, the fisherman may or may not make the right decision. Am I understanding that right? And if I am, in it’s own way does make everything evenly fair. Making it a thinking game.

    Now on what and how I was thinking, if you gave everyone a Royal Wulff and said, here it is, this is what everyone gets, so good luck. This would really take everything away from the fisherman to see their true skill and by therefore leaving it to ( chance? ) that a fish makes the only decision to bite. Other than that, everyone is just out flinging a fly hoping for the best. But then again, no matter what fly the person chooses, aren’t they hoping for the best?

    I hope I worded that all right. But I see what you’re saying creek. It makes better sense than what I was thinking.

    #7525

    Creek
    Participant

    You could give everybody the same fly, but then you’d only be testing them in part of fly fishing. The problem is, what if the trout aren’t interested in a Royal Wulff no matter how good it’s presented? No winner. 😀

    #7528

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    True, so true.

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