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  • #4202

    SteveG
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    Can anyone recommend some midge patterns that are “easier” to see? I’m having a heck of a time seeing anything smaller than a sz18 on riffled water. I tied a foam wing version that I saw on a different thread here, using packing foam, but it didn’t float very well.

    #4204

    Scotty MacFly
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    Hi Steve,

    I have the same problem as you. But I’m going to blame my eyesight. So what I have done, and it works great, is tie a bright colored post to it. Poly yarn or antron work well. A Matt Midge with a pink wing works good. A Sprout Trico with a bright orange post is also one of my favorites. Or take a Griffiths Gnat and in the center of it wrap a few turns of red thread. Not too much, but just enough to stick out a little.
    Hope this helps.

    Terryll

    #4206

    Dry Fly Guy
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    I echo Scotty MacFly. For me the only way to get a Midge pattern to be “highly visible” (and I use that term very loosely) is to use a highly visible post of some sort.

    I’ve tied the HiVis CDC Midge: http://globalflyfisher.com/patterns/hivis/ and like it quite a bit.

    And I’ve experimented with adding a parachute/post to patterns like the “Forget-Me-Knot” Midge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkxL1GlZ1O8

    Bottom line for me and my eyes though is anything that small in riffled water is really tough to keep track of.

    ~ DFG

    #4209

    Dark Waters
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    Do sunglasses help? I hope so, I just got new glasses as well as a pair of polarized prescription sunglasses. Haven’t had those in decades. Otherwise I can see small flies in calm water just fine, in riffles with a glare though… !!!

    #4211

    Grsdlnr
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    I use white Hi-Vis for midge wings – it lives up to its name, at least on the smooth surfaces of spring creeks and tailwaters. It looks similar to krinkly Z-lon but seems much easier to see (possibly fluorescent?) My standard midge pattern that’s caught trout from New York to New Mexico –

    Hook: Daiichi 1110, #20 – 22
    Body: stripped peacock
    Wing: white Hi-Vis, sparse (8 – 12 fibers)
    Thorax: Grey fur
    Hackle: grizzly dyed dun

    If your local shop doesn’t have Hi-Vis the mfr’s info from the package is : L & L Products, 12 Raemer Court, Bethpage, NY 11714 516-931-6714

    #4213

    Creek
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    I don’t bother with trying to see the midge. I like to keep them natural looking. So, I drop the midge off a bigger dry to use as an indicator. It’s not as good as seeing the midge, but I gave up at trying to do that decades ago. You need to react fast to the indicator dry, because the trout will be spitting out the midge fast, and you’re getting the strike second hand. Set the hook the nano second the big fly does anything un-natural in it’s drift.

    #4214

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    Creek has a great point there. I like the idea of a bigger fly for an indicator. Keeps me more on my toes and helps with my timing of my setting the hook.

    #4216

    SteveG
    Participant

    Thanks for the idea guys. DFG, I really like the look of the CDC midge. I tried a similar pattern using CDC dubbing and a small piece of foam, but didn’t get the results I wanted.

    I’m using good glasses, but late day glare is terrible lol.

    I’ll keep trying a two fly setup. But these spring creeks have some nasty currents.

    Does anyone know the difference between mcfly foam and mcflylon? They’re made by the same company, but I can’t tell if one is better as a post due to floatation capability.

    #4217

    SteveG
    Participant

    Disregard that question, just got an answer.

    Trying to midge fish has fried my brain.

    #4218

    Creek
    Participant

    Another option it to use Frogs fanny on the fly, and don’t blow it off. It will make the whole fly look white, and doesn’t seem to stop the fish from striking. The bottom part of the fly is probably still dark, and that’s what the fish see. It will also make the fly ride high in the water.

    Of course you need to keep applying it, but it is an option.

    #4219

    SteveG
    Participant

    I’ll see if I have any lying around. After I discovered Loscha, I stopped using frogs fanny.

    #4372

    magicmike
    Participant

    Check out a pattern called the goober midge. Its pretty easy to tie.

    Mike

    #4375

    SteveG
    Participant

    http://www.flytyingforum.com/pattern10632.html

    Is one I stumbled across, and its doing well for me in a sz20. Oddly, this afternoon I saw an adult midge that was orange. Never saw them that color before.

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