May 22, 2016 at 10:49 pm #5311
OK, you all may laugh at me, shake your heads in disbelief, because I’m probably the only one to ever ask this. And even though it may be legal in Colorado to smoke it, I promise you, and swear on my Bible I have never touched the stuff, but here it goes. You may want to sit down.
Pine sap, do you think it would make a good floatant, or sink?
I was fishing yesterday and grabbed on to a pine tree and my line hand got sticky. Believe me, it’s not easy shooting line through your hand with pine sap. I then accidently got a little on my tippet, and I’m not sure, but I think it kind of acted like a degreaser and took the tippet just under the surface. I was trying to wash it off my hand, and it’s not easy with just water, then I thought that maybe it would be a good, sticky, but good floatant for those times you run out.
Colorado University did a study years ago on tree sap and largemouth bass. They said that large Mouth bass moved away from X-mas trees dumped in piles in a local reservoir. Fish like structure, so they found that the scent from the pine sap kept bass away. I don’t know how it would affect trout. I believe it wouldn’t bother them because I have caught trout on the downstream side of a pine tree that has fallen in the river.
So when you’re done laughing and asking how in the world was I allowed to join this forum, I’d like some of your thoughts.May 22, 2016 at 10:58 pm #5312
No comment.May 22, 2016 at 11:12 pm #5313
It was one of those days, I swear.May 28, 2016 at 8:32 pm #5325
Dry Fly GuyKeymaster
Too funny Scotty.
Why don’t you do some field trials and report back. 😉
~ DFGJune 5, 2016 at 8:28 pm #5327
I could see pine sap making a pretty good (albeit slow drying) head cement…..
but in truth, most Christmas trees in Colorado (and most places) are ‘fir’ species, not pines (although some pines are used) so likely, if the bass were shying away from Christmas tree structure, they were reacting to the genus ‘Abies”, not “Pinus”.
brentJune 6, 2016 at 11:24 pm #5329
Here’s what I was thinking. They use sap to get metals out of ore. What I have learned is they will heat the sap ( being a tar ) and place the ore in it. The metals soon get extracted from the ore after different processes. They skim off the top layer of whatever they are trying to produce if I remember right, but I could be wrong on that.
So I thought that maybe if I collect enough sap to heat up to a liquid, I can either use what comes to the top after skimming it off, or, use what’s below it. I figure what comes to the surface should be like an oil base substance that’ll float.
Now, my average grade in science was a C. So maybe I’m just thinking up a fantastical unreal idea, or maybe I’m onto something. I don’t know.
Like I said, it was just one of those days.
Wheezeburnt, thank you for clearing that up for me.June 7, 2016 at 6:00 am #5330
Scotty: I think you’ve moved into the realm of alchemy, but I’m a firm believer that just because no one thought to do it, it doesn’t make it a bad idea. Just be careful: some tree saps contain terpenes (especially conifers) and terpenes can be very flammable. sounds like a good way for a lad to lose his eyebrows (or more).
Ore extraction using sap? Can’t say I’ve ever heard of that.
brentJune 7, 2016 at 6:24 pm #5331
I was told about the extraction with ore by a co-worker who used to do that sort of thing. He said they used different vats for extracting out different metals. He didn’t get into details. Now, I forgot about sap being flammable. Maybe this isn’t such a wise thing to do. Think I’ll stay with my store bought floatant. Thanks for the warning.June 10, 2016 at 9:25 am #5332
Hey, speaking of natural fly fishing products, I recall about two decades ago being at a fly tying meeting where one of the older and more crusty instructors showed a group of aghast yuppies how he could use belly button lint and earwax to dub a dryfly body. He offered the completed fly to the group: no takers. I had to scrap the fly I was tying because I’d snorted coffee all over it.
brentJune 10, 2016 at 3:06 pm #5333
Sounds ok to me. I would have taken the fly. Was it an Adams? 😀June 10, 2016 at 4:13 pm #5334
Why, yes it was!!! As luck would have it, he’d been wearing a medium gray wool sweater (likely for days…). I’m not sure how much the students at his table remember from that class, but I’m danged sure they remembered THAT.
I think a related lesson is: when you trim your finger nails for fly tying, always leave the baby finger a little bit long.
brentJune 11, 2016 at 10:52 am #5335
I tried to tie one up, but fell short of BB lint. I should have tied a smaller Adams.
Anybody seen my grey sweater?June 12, 2016 at 7:09 am #5336
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