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  • #5967

    Creek
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    Well, I bought a rod recently from a builder. He uses Bobha as a name on the glass and classic forums. He builds some really nice rods.

    What I wanted was a rod for fishing the North Country Spiders, but could also cast dries. Both fish in a similar method. Which is upstream or up and across He had a CTS AffintyX rod he built in 10′ 3wt. Sounded just right. I knew it was a fast rod, but Bob said using a 4wt line slows it down. A 10’4wt is what I wanted, so I bought it. The price was cheap at $170. I know the blank cost $350, so it was a really good deal for a built rod with top components.

    I got the rod yesterday and cast it. I had ordered a 4wt line but it hasn’t got here yet. All I had was a Peach DT 5wt loaded on a reel, so I used it thinking it was going to overload the rod, but it was worth a try. Well, it sure didn’t overload the rod. I always go for med action rods and never owned a rod with this much power. I had a fairly stong wind in my face, but was still casting 60ft with a short stroke. No haul, just a relaxed easy cast. It shot the line out like a rocket and dead straight and this was with a line two weights heavy.. It was very addicting. The problem was it didn’t load up close very good. I needed 25ft of line in the air to just begine to feel the rod loading. It would be a great rod for streamers or fishing lakes. For what I want it wasn’t going to work.

    I told Bob about my problem and he came back that he was sending me another rod that he knew i’d like. It’s a Seele 9’6″ 4wt 4pcs blank and the rod built by Bob with top components again. He said it was his favorite rod, but wanted me to be happy. Pretty unusual for someone who only bought a used rod from him at a low price. He described the action as slightly slower than a Winston IM6. That sounds perfect. He said though that i’ll be shocked at the power it has even with the slow action.

    I didn’t know what a Seele rod was so I research it. It turns out this is the rod that Mike McFarland was building when he shut down his business to go into business with a partner. That business didn’t work out, but not because the rods were bad. Everybody who’s ever cast one of the rods says they were the best casting rod ever tried. The sold for $785. This blank that Bob sent me was rolled by Mike Mcfarland after the Selle business closed down. I guess he made it special for Bob. He had two. Another in 9’3″ 5wt 3pcs. I thought the 9’6″ 4wt 4pcs sounded better.

    Here’s a description of the Signature series which is what’s being sent to me. Also a video of the rod tip being tested.

    Seele Fly Rods
    Made in USA
    All Seele Glass and Graphite Fly Rods are built and handcrafted, piece-by-piece, entirely in Bellwood, Pennsylvania, USA.
    For YOU
    In every single Seele Fly Rod you will feel the essence of more than 60 years of experience in fly fishing – built by fly fishers for fly fishers. The fly rods with soul.

    Signature FAST FULL FLEX taper
    You will find our signature Fast Full Flex tapers in all of our rods with individual recovery speeds depending on the rod model.
    The FFF design is a highly refined taper that provides the best in both fishing and casting. These rods load quickly and flex deeply, but have tremendous reserve power for longer casts and playing big fish. Best of all, this reserve power doesn’t come from an excessively powerful butt section, but from the entire blank and every part of the blank works in harmony. The result is a rod that is unlike anything you have ever cast.
    The time and thought we invest in our taper designs is to make sure we build the best fly rods for you and for the best fishing day in your life!

    TruTech composite technology
    All of our graphite rods use our own development, a new composite technology. This development, known as TruTech, significantly increases rod performance and durability and provides our rods with unmatched strength, lightness, and sensitivity.

    Only the BEST components
    All Seele Fly Rods feature hand-turned grips (no filler / no pre-forms) made of true flor grade cork rings, Snake Brand or REC Recoil guides, custom designed reel seats made by Joel Lemke, and highly figured wood inserts or our own Seele signature glass fiber reel seat insert.

    #5968

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    That’s a really nice thing he is doing for you creek. I have heard outstanding things about Seele rods. It sounds obvious that he wants you to truly be happy, and I think you will be with that rod.

    My 10′ 4wt doesn’t cast in close very well either, and I have though about doing what you did and go up in line weight. I have read somewhere that when it comes to 10′ rods, a 3wt is more like a 4wt, and a 4wt is more like a 5wt and so on. My son has a Greys 10′ 5wt. It’s all they had left at the store when Greys stopped selling them in the U.S. It’s an incredible rod, and it roll casts so easily. But anyway, I was thinking going to a 5wt DT line, or a 5wt WF line with a heavy grain, like 145 to 150 grains, just to load the rod easier.

    I am very impressed with that film on bending that rod tip. That is insane!! I was expecting it to snap when he touched the ends together.

    #5969

    Creek
    Participant

    The good part about getting a Seele is Mike McFarland is honoring the warranty. He can still roll the Seele blanks and anything else that goes wrong with the rod Bob will cover it. So, I have a 100% lifetime warranty. That’s what sealed the deal for me. I didn’t mention I have to kick in another $125, but with the $170 I already paid that just comes to $275 for an $800 custom built rod. I have no complaints.

    I’m more dedicated than ever to fishing spiders exclusively. Yesterday I made up a bunch of two dropper leaders. My Wheatley engraved fly box has been shipped. It’s all coming together. Waders are the last item on my list.

    #5970

    Scotty MacFly
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    Creek, that’s a fantastic deal! Man, you are being blessed for sure.
    I am very happy for you.

    Will you be able to fish by late March?

    #5971

    Creek
    Participant

    I’ll be ready. I might not have the waders, but I have lots of places I can fish from the bank.

    #5972

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    Sounds good. Where do you order your Partridge hooks from? Most places I have looked at are sold out, or dont cart them.

    #5973

    Creek
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    I get everything from the UK from my friend. Did you Google them to see what came up?

    #5974

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    I must have accident my deleted it, and I can’t find it mentioned in the posts we have been on.

    Could you please post it again creek?

    I did find a place in Jersey that has them. The only things I have ever ordered from across the pond were my kilts. Didn’t see if Bass Pro has them, yuck.

    #5975

    Creek
    Participant

    You need some computer skills Scotty.

    https://www.google.com/#q=partridge+L3A-s

    Besides the Wheatley engraved box I ordered. I also bought a used one that’s half compartments and half clips. The compartments are terrible, but he included a foam piece with slits for flies with the box. So, I put that in and through the compartments away.

    He also included 6 new in packages gut leaders. How freaking cool! I haven’t seen those in ages. I’m not sure I want to use them, but i’m getting a kick out of having them.

    #5976

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    No, if I had any more computer skills I’d just get in trouble. The only reason I have a computer is so I can talk to you guys without getting on my wife’s computer.

    Thanks creek. Now I know what you meant.Ha,ha. Yeah, should have just typed it up myself and clicked on go.

    Grandma said find something I’d be good at and stick with it. I haven’t found anything yet.

    I’m an idiot at times. But I can laugh at myself. Or cry, just as good. Lol. 😛

    #5983

    Creek
    Participant

    The rod shows up today. I won’t be able to cast it with all the snow we’ve had lately, but I can get a good idea how a rod will cast by how if feels in hand. Not exactly or course, but a close idea.

    I’m having remorse about canceling the order for the bamboo. An 8’3″ bamboo isn’t ideal for spiders, but it sure would be nice for dries. 😀

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by  Creek.
    #5985

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    What weight rod was it going to be? Was it another 5wt?

    #5986

    Creek
    Participant

    It was an 8’3″ 4wt. A good dry fly rod, but he has a buyer for it and didn’t finish it the way I wanted it.

    If I had him build one from scratch it would be an 8’6″ 5wt for the Arkansas. Hollow built and would weigh around 4oz. It would be a Powell B taper which is a med to med-fast action. It would work for spiders and dries.

    #5987

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    I know that hollow built rods are lighter & more expensive. There has to be someone else somewhere who can do that for you.

    I could never afford a hollow built, especially from the masters like Raines or Mike from Southcreek Lmt. in Lyons. I do believe the guy who built mine will do hollow builds, but he doesn’t like to. He disagrees with the purpose of it. I didn’t ask why because he said it would be a long explanation.

    But he will build you anything you want. If you want, I will give you his name, and you could talk to him. He will be building my next boo when I get the money.

    #5988

    Creek
    Participant

    I never said my guy couldn’t build anything. I did ask him about a 9′ rod and he said he hadn’t done one, but i’m sure he would if I pushed it. I think it was more about having the cane cut for shorter rods at the moment.

    He specializes in Powell tapers, because he likes them. I do too and even Tom Morgan said Powell made the best tapers. Powell came up with hollow built rods back in the 20-30’s and I believe he had the patent on it.

    Ray Taylor is the builder and his prices are very reasonable. He gets $485 for a two tip rod. Here’s one he just built. I was actually thinking about this rod while he was building it, but decided to go longer.

    http://classicflyrodforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=102976

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