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  • #6493

    Scotty MacFly
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    Hey guys, you know those fake coon skin caps you can buy at some places? Do you thing the fake coon tail material would make good tailing on dries?

    #6494

    Creek
    Participant

    Coon Tail Adams?

    #6495

    Grsdlnr
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    Not familiar with the stuff – guess I need to get out more.

    #6496

    Scotty MacFly
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    Why not fake coon tail? I’ve seen moose hair used as tailing material on some flies.

    With blending grizz & brown fibers together, its almost a match to those cheap Dan’l Boon caps.

    • This reply was modified 3 months, 2 weeks ago by  Scotty MacFly.
    #6498

    Creek
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    For one thing natural hair is more buoyant. They’re hollow and will float. I’d bet the artificial stuff is solid and won’t float well if at all.

    Always think of how a material will float for dries Scotty.

    #6499

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    Good advice Creek. I didn’t think of that.

    So what I should do is collect road kill. 😄

    • This reply was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by  Scotty MacFly.
    #6501

    Creek
    Participant

    A lot of guys do. Especially, for deer and elk hair.

    #6502

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    Yeah, I can see it now, my wife may draw the line right there.

    Its too bad. I must pass at least 5 coins a day on the way to work. And it would probably look like the beginning of a horror movie having someone drive by seeing me cut the tails off.

    Oh well, guess I will file this away with the tree sap as floatant idea. 😄

    Stay dry Creek, stay dry.

    • This reply was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by  Scotty MacFly.
    #6505

    wheezeburnt
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    I’m not sure coon hair is hollow. Probably best to have a look with a magnifying glass. Not even all deer hair is hollow: bucktails (esp. the tips) are solid. that’s what makes them so useful for streamers that must sink. And, while most DNRs turn a blind eye, just be aware that, in many jurisdictions, collection of roadkill can be illegal.
    While we’re on the topic, though, you cannot beat muskrat underfur for Adams dubbing. It contains natural oils that make it very water resistant and is a perfect gray colour.
    brent

    #6506

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    Well, I tied a fly using the fake coon tail as tailing material. It is difficult to work with and you surely don’t want too much. Getting the tips to line up is impossible even with a hair stacker. So I had to do a little trimming. It doesn’t look too bad, but its not what I pictured it to look like.

    Think I’ll stick to grizz & brown hackle for the tails for now, unless anyone has another suggestion.

    #6507

    Creek
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    I agree that muskrat is a must for an Adams. I like to always use natural materials and don’t even own any of the fake crap.

    Being a deer, elk, and bear hunter. I have never had to buy those materials. I thought of trying to trap a muskrat, but never got around to it.

    There a good feeling of using your own fly to catch a fish, but it’s a new level to also harvest the materials to tie the fly.

    #6510

    Grsdlnr
    Participant

    …unless anyone has another suggestion.

    Coq de Leon makes excellent dry fly tails if you want to go the natural materials route. I got some from Trouthunters that was not cheap, but good quality. For the tiny bugs like olives, I like Microfibbetts – basically dyed nylon paintbrush fibers. Bought two packages (dark and light dun) 20 years ago and I still have another 20 years’ worth left.

    There a good feeling of using your own fly to catch a fish, but it’s a new level to also harvest the materials to tie the fly

    Very true – unfortunately what I hunt (quail mostly, a few grouse) makes great nymphs and soft hackles, not so much dries.

    #6511

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    GRS, how many fibers of the micro fibers do you use? I have a bunch of those I use for RS2’s. Never thought of using them for any other fly.

    And I completely forgot about the CDL’s for tailing. I need to stop by the shop and get some.

    • This reply was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by  Scotty MacFly.
    #6514

    Grsdlnr
    Participant

    I use just two microfibbetts and split them – they stabilize the fly very well.

    #6517

    Scotty MacFly
    Participant

    Thanks GRS. I have seen others tie in 3 fibers from other materials, but the micro fibers being the way they are, two fibers like you said should work. I don’t see why not.

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