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    Scotty MacFly

    I’m sitting here in front of Front Range Anglers. Been here since 6am. Doors don’t open till 7.

    Its Scott fly rod days here, and I am going to put my name in the raffle for a new rod. Plus but some hip waders cause my waders blew out.

    Then, after all that, I am off to the creek.

    I am the only bafoon waiting for the doors to open. Oh, wait a sec. Someone else has shown up. Gotta go.


    Scotty MacFly

    Ok, I spent the better part of the day at FRA, and first off, the communication between the shop and Scott was bad. Scott wasn’t going to raffle off a rod. Neither did they know they were going to raffle off anything. But they decided to raffle off hats and shirts.

    I did cast every model they had, and for practical reasons, and liking rods for special tasks, I thought how each rod would suit a purpose. I compared the Tidal against the Meridian, and though the Tidal has a slower and smoother cast which I like, what killed it for me was the physical weight of the rod. Compared to the Meridian, it was considerably heavier, but it will send some line flying. The Meridian was a faster rod no doubt, and felt so much lighter in my hand, it was sheer pleasure to play with, and when I learned to cast from the butt of the rod and not the tip, I was able to cast the entire line. And I’m not one for 100ft. casts, but with this rod, I couldn’t resist.

    Of course the Radian was there in all its glory, and I tried it in different weights. I liked it in 4wts. & up, & these were 9′ models, but the 7’6″ 3wt was way too fast.

    As for the new G series, the 9ft 4wt was too stiff. It was a little faster than I thought it’d be. I then tried the 884, and now we’re getting somewhere I thought. It was a little softer, and I thought it would do well on a river like the Poudre. But the 844 was sweet. It had a deeper bend, and a relaxed smooth cast. Funny, usually when you go shorter, the rods get a little stiffer, but this was not the case with the G series. Even Theo from Scott admitted it was unique in that way.
    I have to be honest. There isn’t too many rods that can get me all giddy inside, but this rod is one of the few that made me giggle when casting it. Creek, I believe you’d like that rod.

    The Flex was next. A good solid mid priced rod, and sure to stick around awhile, and even though many people say it’s the child developed between the Radian & Meridian, I soon discovered not to even go there. To me, it is it’s own individual self. Great rod for the money, and surely a huge step up from the A4 series, but it’s on it’s own plain. It casts well, and it’s light in the hand, very accurate, and it looks as good as the more expensive rods. Just looking at it you’d think it would be a high end rod, but it’s not. But it’s dang close. Real close.

    Not near as many people showed up to cast the demo rods as I thought would, probably due to weak advertising. When things were at a close, I was the only person there who put in a raffle ticket, and that’s when I walked away with hats & shirts for nothing but being there and enjoying the day with Jake & Theo from Scott.

    I learned a lot about Scott Rods today, how they are constructed to the quality materials they use, and the differences in Scott Rods compared to other brand name rods. Let me tell you, it seems Scott has it’s head on straight, and they are excited about the rods they have to offer, and strive to look for better materials all the time. But right now, as it was explained to me and some other folks, what they have will stay for awhile because at this day and time, they don’t know of any better materials to make their rods with. But they continue to look. The only material they get that’s not made in America is the cork. And I can easily understand that being it comes from Portugal. Everything else is American made.

    Great people making a great product in this great country. What more could you ask for?



    Whiling away a day shooting the bull and casting a bunch of new rods has a certain appeal, and I’ve certainly done just that many times. Sure beats hanging out in bars. Though I’m not sure I’d want to spend time in a shop that could have been spent on a river. Moot point anyway – the closest fly shop to me is over 100 miles away.

    Interesting take on the Scott rods – did you happen to see or better yet try any two-handers? My rod purchasing days are over, except a two handed rod may be on the list if I ever manage an Atlantic salmon trip.



    I had most of the original G rods. They were nice rods but still no soul like bamboo rods.


    Scotty MacFly

    GRS, I’m sorry, but they didn’t bring any 2 handed rods. Which is funny because Jake, the sales rep. mentioned it’s becoming popular. I thought to myself on what river would I spey cast on, and the only river I know would be the Colorado between Eagle and Rifle.

    Jake said it’s the casting part that’s becoming popular. He said if you were to put him in an area with trees and all sorts of vegetation around him putting him in a crowded situation, spey casting is what he’d do because he doesn’t have to back cast. I can see that. But wouldn’t a proper roll cast be just as good?
    I didn’t ask him that, but I wish I did.

    AS for staying around all day casting and talking to the Reps., and at times getting bored, then go cast a different rod, in the heat, downtown Boulder on a street where people were casting dealing with the traffic at times, I agree with you. It does beat being in a bar, by a long shot. Nothing good comes from that.

    • This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by  Scotty MacFly.


    …wouldn’t a proper roll cast be just as good?

    I’m a rank beginner in double handed casting techniques but a single spey cast could be described as basically a roll cast. Which IMO has limited usefulness in dry fly fishing as how do you dry a soggy fly so it floats again without a false cast or two?

    A double spey, done properly, can reach out much further than any roll cast. And with less effort than casting the same distance with a single handed rod. Which is why big river salmon and steelhead fishermen are turning to them at least for swinging wets. Not sure why trout fishermen would want double handed rods except perhaps for nymphing where a longer rod could be an advantage. There aren’t many trout streams where you need to bang out 100′ casts for hours on end. Maybe it’s my inner cynic talking, but I see two handed trout rods as just marketing, a way to sell one more rod to guys who already have a bunch of them.


    Scotty MacFly

    I know really nothing about spey / skagit casting. I do know I can watch a great caster for hours doing it. It looks so…..artful. Just the way they lay that line out shooting through the air at such a high speed is almost poetic.

    Maybe the trout fishermen are using one handed rods, Jake wasn’t real clear on what rod he uses. He just talked about why he does it.

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