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Scotty…….of course you won’t find many browns on high mountain creeks. That’s cutthroat and brookie water. That doesn’t mean cutthroats won’t be at lower altitudes. I’ll use the Arkansas River as an example. There was a time when it was nothing but cutthroats. It’s the only native trout we have. That was before browns, brookies and rainbows were introduced by man.
So when I say the browns ate the cutthroats and the brookies starved the brookies. I didn’t mean on the same waters.
As for the bones in small brookies? I’ve heard you can eat them. I still tend to pull the bones off the meat after it’s cooked. I’m sure I eat some of the smaller ones. If I don’t feel a crunch I just keep on chewing.
Let me also add something to what the warden told me. I didn’t know I had to keep going into more details. To get to the creek i’m talking about you have to go through and park at the fishery. It was that fishery that was stocking the creek with greenbacks and was upset over the brookie problem. The conversation I was having was with a warden who happened to be there and three fishery employees. We were talking about the brookie problem and everybody was upset over it. The warden at that point told me to keep or throw away as many brookies as I wanted. The three fishery employees backed him up by saying…Please do. We’re having a terrible time getting rid of the brookies. I knew I had to come back through the fishery when I left. I felt safe to catch a few extras. Especially, since I was helping conservation.
Does this make more sense now?
I don’t think he was telling me to do it all over Colorado. This was for just the creek I was fishing. It’s right above a fishery near Leadville. They were trying to breed the Greenback Cutthroats in the creek which are in big trouble in this state.
I didn’t throw the brookies away but did take a mess of them home to eat. It’s the only fish i’ll eat.
This is a true story. I got stopped by a warden to check my fishing license. We had a long talk and he was the one who told me the brookies were starving the cutthroats in the creek I was fishing.
He told me to catch as many brookies as I wanted to and if I didn’t eat them to just throw them away. He said don’t worry about getting a ticket. He said anybody who gives out tickets would tell me the same thing.
That’s how mad he was about the situation on cutthroats. I’ve become just as mad over time.
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Game departments are to blame and always have been. Why are they stocking rainbows to begin with? What’s wrong with just stocking cutthroats?
Brown trout eat cutthroats. Brookies hog all the food and starve the cutthroats. Rainbows breed with cutthroats and are eliminating pure cutthroats. They don’t have a chance.
Cutthroats are our native fish and soon they’ll all be gone. There was a time when cutthroats were the only fish in the Arkansas River You’ll never catch one now. I don’t know anybody who does. It makes me sick how man can screw up nature.
It should be a law that all cutthroats should be C&R and put back in the water immediately.No bragging pictures are to be taken. Just put it back right away and keep it in the water all the time you’re releasing it. I’d turn in every fisherman I see not doing it. Of course, the DOW is too stupid to pass such a law.
As you can tell. I have a soft spot for cutthroats. They’re getting a raw deal.
Looks more like chocolate milk here. Pretty early for runoff to be showing up.
Sometimes I can be a grumpy old coot. It’s best to ignore me when i’m like that.
What you teach is a good thing. I do have a question though. What’s the purpose of casting so fast?
It’s hard to describe a cast with words. I’m not good at that. I fish from instinct. I see a situation and just make up a cast on the spot. So much is involved in what a situation challenges us with. It’s hard to see it all in a picture. One example is it can’t show wind. There’s many more examples. I don’t feel looking at a picture would be enough for me to tell you what cast i’d use. Especially, if I invent a new one for the situation. I may not always know what sort of cast i’ll use until I do it.
I hope this makes sense to you, but i’m going to pass on the experiment. I have nothing to prove and i’m sure you don’t either.
You need to experiment more with your casting Scotty. Whether it’s figuring it out yourself, or copying someone else.
I saw nothing Massino did that I haven’t done myself, except the speed of the cast. I call them something else or don’t call them anything, but just do them. Then again I am Italian and have been fly fishing for 65 years.
Scotty………..You talk to Kelly Galloup in Montana and he’ll tell you he’s been doing a form of nymphing just like Czech nymphing. Long before the Europeans came up with it and put their name on it.
There’s little new in fly fishing and putting a different name on something doesn’t make it new
Other than the speed of the casting Massimo is doing I don’t see anything new, except what he calls the casts.The speed of the cast I can’t see as any advantage.
You’re a good caster Massimo, but I fail to see what you’re doing as anything new.
Just an honest opinion.
Just like Scotty. I love creek fishing and the reason I took Creek as a name. I love the complete solitude in the Colorado Rockies. The same areas that I hunt for elk, deer, and bears. I love the mountains.
I’ve lost all desire for fishing popular waters that are full of idiots who only want to catch big fish and will shove anybody in their way to do it. I never run into anybody on my creeks. Perfect.
All the waters I fish here in Colorado are fast. Sometimes way too fast to fish. (runoff)
I didn’t see you fishing what i’d call fast in the one video of yours I watched. Do you have one in what you’re calling fast?
Go to his web site and watch a video Scotty.
I notice a pattern with you. You never click on links that are posted.
No, I use thumb on top for everything.
Welcome to the forum. We’re a small group, but very passionate for dry flies.
Feel free to post whatever is on your mind. What is the Italian casting style? I should know that since i’m Italian decent. My grandparents on both sides came over to the US from Italy.
That’s those particular studs. They also make studs that look like sheet metal screws, or at least they used to. They never pushed though either.
I think Simms uses mostly the style studs I showed. The fit into the soles perfect. The soles are molded just for them.
You need to buy some Simms boots Scotty.
Here’s the model I have, but mine are the old design. They look nothing like this new model. I’ll buy these again if I ever wear out the ones I have now.