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I’m not sure if you’re agreeing with me or not? I didn’t see the video.
I don’t feel like i’m a hypocrite about our native fish.
- This reply was modified 39 minutes ago by Creek.
Scotty, you’re confusing humans with fish. Yes, i’m Italian. It’s possible if it could be done to trace my heritage all the way back to Adam and Eve that i’m from an area we now call Italy. We all go back to somewhere and that’s what we are native of. We also use a different system for humans. We are native to where we are born. It’s easier to understand that way. To be honest. I was born in America, but I always considered myself Italian more that anything else. It describes me better as to what I look like and so many other ways too. You could never say he looks like an American. What would that be? You could look like anybody in the world as long as you were born here.
Fish are different. Fish can’t move from Germany to Colorado by themselves. Fish native to Colorado are the ones God put here. Maybe easier to understand that it’s the fish that were here when man showed up. Including the Indians.
BTW…Go back far enough and the Indians aren’t native to the US either.
So, i’m sorry Scotty. As far as man knows. The only trout native to Colorado are the Cutthroat. Which means they were the only trout here when man showed up. We have no records before that.
I just keep using the big flies until I convince the fish that that’s what they want. It takes patience and creative casting. Convince the fish it’s a hatch. They might be looking for a smaller fly, but they’ve taken the bigger fly at some time in their life. If they’re hungry and I can make the big fly look tempting. They’ll give in.
A true dry fly fisherman will find a way to change a trouts mind in what it wants. The degree that you’re a dry fly fisherman is how long you stay with a fly before going to something new. I’m as stubborn as they come. I’ll never change a fly. That just wastes time I should have a fly on the water. I can’t convince the trout a hatch in on if I have gaps in-between changing flies.
I’ll be fishing next to them using a size#14 dry and they’ll be using size #20-22. I’m catching just as many fish and more at times, but they insist on telling me the fish want small flies.
I just smile and land another one on my #14, while they curse they can’t see their fly. I’ll say I can’t see their fly either. Then i’ll say………..can you see mine? They say sure that’s easy. They never get it.
When they get tired of breaking off tippet with their fast rods they increase the tippet size until it stops breaking. Then the hooks start to open up on the small size flies they insist on using.
I have friends who do it now and then, but they’re from the fast rod crowd. I think the stiffer rods and the ungentle fighting of the fish is the problem. Way too much bend in my rods to straighten a hook. Plus, I never use small flies. I can’t see the little buggers.
As long as it’s listed as a dry fly hook you should be ok. All you can do is try them and see. Tie them extra bushy.
You could give everybody the same fly, but then you’d only be testing them in part of fly fishing. The problem is, what if the trout aren’t interested in a Royal Wulff no matter how good it’s presented? No winner. 😀
The light hooks might not be the best choice if you think you’ll be catching some hogs. If used for the spiders the flies don’t get that small, so the lighter hooks should be ok. I’ve never opened one catching the hogs on the Taylor. Although those fish are smart and know to drag the tippet across the big boulders and break off. It takes some luck to land those smart asses.
Scotty…….Glad you’re back posting. I don’t know why I checked back here. I really wasn’t going to come back, but i’m glad I did.
Ok, on to your question. They do have one fly competitions. Not so much on a pro level, but more of a club friendly comp.
Think about fly fishing. What are the parts of it? You need to learn how to cast. You need to control the fly on the water. You need to know how to rig it all up. The last thing you need to know is what fly to use. This involves many parts, but the bottom line is you need to know what fly to tie on for the time and place you’re at when fishing. So, to leave that decision out of a one fly contest would make it too easy. The fisherman needs to make that decision. You can use a dry, nymph, streamer, or some freaky one of a kind fly. It’s up to the fisherman and you can’t say he’s at a disadvantage for using a dry and someone else uses a nymph, because he made that decision.
It’s a contest to see who’s the best fisherman and that involves knowing what fly to use. Make sense?
Looks like the same stuff in Frogs Fanny. I buy that stuff by the pound. It’s really cheap compared to the ripoff in the small bottles.
Many years ago I bought a bottle of Frogs Fanny so i’d have the bottle with the brush. Then I just keep filling it up with a small funnel from my original pound.
I’d rather have a softer rod and go home when the wind is howling. On really windy days I go to a creek with a lot of cover. I hardly notice the wind and casts are short anyways.
Standing on an open river on a really windy day is self-torture.
That was interesting. I notice he wasn’t casting the stick. Just sort of flipping it.
I’m surprised by his choice of graphite rods. I cast a Sage XP once and it was the stiffest rod i’ve ever cast by a wide margin compared to what i’d own.
Longer rod, so you can lift as much line off the water as possible. Mending just won’t work if the flow is fast over multiple lanes.
I was talking about both videos. The first one really needs no comment. The second one looks like he had someone netting the fish for him since his flagpole was so far away.
I just don’t get the whole Tenkara thing? You can do the same thing with a fly rod by holding the line with your finger on the cork, but you have the option of letting line out if needed and reeling it in to land the fish. The longer Tenkara rod may have some advantage, but the disadvantage of no reel seems more important. An 11′ fly rod will be close to the Tenkara. Some Tenkara rods are that length.
I guess i’m too old school to be tempted by another method other than fly fishing.