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No Creek. We are hypocrites about ourselves. That’s what I’m saying. We all originated from somewhere else, just like the brookies originated from back east, Penn. WV., for example. They were here in the USA before the white man, and the white man settled in the eastern part of the country first, then gradually moved west. Now, again for example, I can say I am a native of Colorado, but the rainbows, browns, and brookies that have been in these waters longer than I have been alive, we can’t say they are native fish.
Granted, it’s one of the things that popped in my head and it’s difficult for me to explain because I can understand it in my head, the point I’m trying to make, but can’t get it out in writing. I do know it’s not to be taken too seriously, or racist towards others, my goodness, absolutely not racist in any aspect.
Man, talk about opening up a box of flies and finding nothing but worms..augh! Ha ha.
I intended this to be a light hearted topic, but it got a little deep, and it’s not anyone’s fault but my own.
One more attempt. If you took me fishing, and I had never fished before, and I caught a rainbow in a creek where native cutthroat live, you’d say that the rainbow is not native to these waters. And you would be correct. But they are here, and have been here a very, very long time. Well, you can say the same thing about yourself, and I as well, along with pretty much everyone. But the fact is, non-native fish are here, and they are here to stay. The damage has been done, and we have to deal with it.
We are not truly natives to this country, but we have been here a long time, some longer than others, but we are not going anywhere, just like the fish. But we as humans can re-write the rules when it comes to ourselves, but not to other species.
And GRS, touched it on another level I was trying to make too. We as humans do hurt the ecosystem of our fish, in all states. We are a threat to them too. I don’t know who brought the rainbows, browns, and brookies here to this state, but you know what, and this is the root of what I guess I’m trying to say.
Natives, or non-natives, does it really matter anymore? That’s what I’m trying to say. Damn, should have said that from the beginning. 😀
I would love to see the greenback cutthroat make an historical return to these waters, I really would. But as for the non-native fish that have been here for a long time, I’m glad they are here too.
Here’s the video if interested. I’m sure you all have seen it.
Grs, thank you.
Creek, you said that we use a different system, that we are native to where we are born. I know that as well as anyone.
Watching that video I guess reminded me on how people look at others, and other things and are quick to call out things without looking at ourselves first.
I’m home now. Bat fly, sorry to hear about your wife. Hope she gets better.
I very rarely go smaller than 18, 20 being the absolute smallest. I have learned this year that its better to fish a fly that you can see in faster water than one you can’t see. If I fish a pool or somewhere where the water isn’t turbulant, then I will go smaller if the bigger flies don’t work.
Really? Ha ha ha. And I thought I was stupid. 😀
I never thought about fast rods contributing to bent hooks. Broken tippet, yes, but not bent hooks.
I my contact Gaelic Supreme & ask why the upward bend to the eye. That is new to me.
I come home tomorrow, so I’ll do it this weekend.
True, so true.
Umpqua sells some really finely guaged hooks, and the guys at the local shop suggested to me to buy some. But when I tie flies with them, I’d bend the hook. I’m sure they’d be good for small brookies and such, but I really don’t see how I can have confidence in them.
I do really like the Partidge hooks. Very strong and sharp. Just looking at one and you see nothing but quality. I see that Dette fly shop sells them, so I guess I can order a pack and see for myself now.
I guess what I’m wondering is how heavy of a hook ( a dry fly hook ) should one go? Will a heavier dry fly hook stay afloat in riffles, or fast pocket water? That’s what I’m trying to figure.
But Like I said, Partridge is all I tie with now, but having the eye rise up may help a person like myself who wears glasses to tie the fly on easier instead of one where the eye is bent down and fibers getting in the way like they do sometimes. The eye would be above the head of the fly.
Hey creek, to start with, like I said before, I aint leaving.
I had to read your post a few times till I understood it just right.
So what you’re saying about the fly choosing is this. When it comes to choose a fly, the fisherman may or may not make the right decision. Am I understanding that right? And if I am, in it’s own way does make everything evenly fair. Making it a thinking game.
Now on what and how I was thinking, if you gave everyone a Royal Wulff and said, here it is, this is what everyone gets, so good luck. This would really take everything away from the fisherman to see their true skill and by therefore leaving it to ( chance? ) that a fish makes the only decision to bite. Other than that, everyone is just out flinging a fly hoping for the best. But then again, no matter what fly the person chooses, aren’t they hoping for the best?
I hope I worded that all right. But I see what you’re saying creek. It makes better sense than what I was thinking.
I like your thinking Grs. I don’t know why this subject came to me last night, but it did & I was just curious. I say if they want to hold contests, make it difficult, but the same for everyone.
I agree with what John says about keeping score. I’m fishing dang it.I don’t want to count. A person can pick this to death, but I say math doesn’t belong in fishing. In sure you all get that.
I’m in Chihuahua. No fishing going on here. Just really bored out of my mind. But I’ll be back next week, and believe me, I can’t wait.
After reading about the stuff, but not much because of time, it works on CDC as well. It has my attention, but depending on the cost would determin if I buy any or not. Just have to find somewhere that sells it and see.
As for the wind, it’s a problem to consider. But as they say in Washington State, don’t let the rain ruin your day.
You know what? That’s a great question from a beginner.
No one ever asks about what not to do.
My first answer would be when casting, don’t arc the rod. Keep the rod tip in a straight plain by starting the cast with the rod tip low. That way when you lift the rod and bring it back, the tip won’t dip behind you. And when you bring it forward, theoretically the tip should stop around the 10:00 position. But I have found, you can vary that a little.
I suppose that’s all that’s needed in small waters like that. Kind of a poor mans Tenkara. I agree with you on the Sage being stiff. I still don’t see what the rage was with the One. I saw on another forum a thread titled something like what rod do you regret buying, and the Sage One was the #1 rod people regretted to own. It’s funny that when a new rod comes out, and the hype begins to flow through the advertisements, everyone has to run out and get this one of a kind rod. I guess now it’s the new G series from Scott. But between the G series and the One, I’ll take the G.
When it came to the Sage One, the pattern I saw was that for normal fishing conditions, it’s junk. But when the wind is howling, it’s needed.
I have only seen two of this mans videos, and their not too shabby. It seems to me, part of making a decent video is to have someone else film for you, and when you talk, talk as though someone is fishing with you. Like you’re the guide teaching them.
Your welcome buddy.